GOD Hates That Baby! Why?
Monday, February 26, 2024
GOD Hates That Baby! Why?
Or
Why We Are What We Are
The subject is why does GOD hate an unborn baby. GOD hates that baby, why?
Here is the definition of 'Hated' (G3404) as used in the context of this chapter (Romans 9):
G3404
μισέω
miseō
mis-eh'-o
From a primary word μῖσος misos (hatred); to detest (especially to persecute); by extension to love less: - hate (-ful).
As you can see, the main definition is 'to detest'. That is a very strong usage of the word 'Hated'.
The post also shows why there is election or the elect, and why each of us are in the condition or situation that we have been born into in this flesh life.
First look at this part:
Romans 9:9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son.
Romans 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
Romans 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
Here (in verses 9 through 11 above), GOD decided that Sara would have a son (Isaac), then Isaac would have two sons (Jacob and Esau).
And it's not of works, but of GOD'S decision.
And it is according to election, or elect.
In this context so far, GOD says according to Promise, these kids would be born and it's according to election, which also means elect.
And it is of HIM that calleth, not of works.
Romans 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. (G3404)
They are both babies in the womb and GOD hates one of the babies. Again, why does GOD hate one of the babies?
Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
GOD teaches us to love each other and to love HIM with all of our heart, so since we know that, does it mean that GOD can be unfair and unrighteous?
No Way!
Verse 14 above says that there is no unrighteousness with GOD. Read further to know why GOD hated Esau.
Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Romans 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
The verses above (verses 15 through 19) show it's the same for everybody else as well.
Romans 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
And verses 20 and 21 show that it's none of our business. Can we that are formed question HE that formed us?
But keep in mind that GOD is NOT unfair or unrighteous. HE is about to tell us why!
Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Here (in verse 22 above) is the answer!
What if GOD, WHO has no problem with showing HIS anger (why anger?) and HE is willing to show HIS power, ENDURED...
What did HE endure? ENDURED is past tense and over a period of time! GOD endured something, what was it?
Those babies are still in the womb and GOD endured (past tense) something one of those babies did in the past! Whatever that baby did, he must have done so before he was in the womb.
Longsuffering means 'Patience':
GOD had MUCH PATIENCE! Patience requires that you endure something over time!
What did HE endure and have patience with?
HE endured and had patience with the vessels of HIS Anger (we are the vessels) that were fit for destruction.
If something is fit for destruction, that means it's a bad vessel.
And notice that Esau was a vessel before being in the womb, but not a clay vessel. Clay vessels are made of earth, which means a flesh body. Our souls get transported around in clay vessels for this flesh age, but if you read 1st Corinthians you will see that the vessels we are in when we become present with the LORD are not clay vessels. They are vessels that are the same as those that Jacob and Esau were inhabiting before they were in their mother’s womb.
So, if the vessel was fit for destruction before it is born, and if GOD was patient with and endured what that vessel was doing to make GOD angry, then those or that vessel had to be bad in the past.
What was in Esau's past at the time he was in the womb?
The only thing that could be in Esau's past at the time he was in the womb would be his existence with GOD before being in the womb, and that would be in the age before this one. So, the soul that was placed in the embryo of Esau is what GOD hated. HE knew Esau before Esau was born, and GOD says HE endured, which is past tense, something that Esau and the other vessels had already done!
Isaiah 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
Do you see it?
An interesting side note:
GOD says that HE knew Jeremiah before Jeremiah was in his mother's womb, and the definition of 'I knew' in the Hebrew manuscript is to know by seeing or observation. Some people think that GOD knew Jeremiah by HIS ability to know all things ahead of time, but that simply is not the case. Even though GOD is all powerful and can know all things, GOD says what HE means and means what HE says. People who think GOD knew Jeremiah by use of HIS ability to know all things are inserting their imagination into scriptures and contradicting what GOD says. The Bible says straight out that GOD knew Jeremiah by observing him.
Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew (H3045) thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
H3045
ידע
yâda‛
yaw-dah'
A primitive root; to know (properly to ascertain by seeing); used in a great variety of senses, figuratively, literally, euphemistically and inferentially (including observation , care, recognition ; and causatively instruction, designation, punishment , etc.): - acknowledge, acquaintance (-ted with), advise, answer, appoint, assuredly, be aware, [un-] awares, can [-not], certainly, for a certainty, comprehend, consider, X could they, cunning, declare, be diligent, (can, cause to) discern, discover, endued with, familiar friend, famous, feel, can have, be [ig-] norant, instruct, kinsfolk, kinsman, (cause to, let, make) know, (come to give, have, take) knowledge, have [knowledge], (be, make, make to be, make self) known, + be learned, + lie by man, mark, perceive, privy to, X prognosticator, regard, have respect, skilful, shew, can (man of) skill, be sure, of a surety, teach, (can) tell, understand, have [understanding], X will be, wist, wit, wot.
Since prophets are always men that give the WORD of GOD to other men (e.g. Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, etc.) , then is this angel saying that he used to be a prophet? There are no angel prophets, right?
In other words, This angel is telling John that he used to be a man in flesh the same as one of the prophets.
Revelation 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Conclusion:
We existed with GOD before we were here in flesh. What we did in the last age determined what our situation is in this age. We got what we deserve. We are the stars* of GOD, the sons of GOD. We are HIS children. This age is the opportunity to come back to HIM if you were bad, or possibly didn't care, or were luke warm in the last age when satan tried to take GOD’S THRONE. HE loves you and will even pay the price for you if you love HIM back and accept HIS gift of Salvation.
If you stood by HIM in the last age, then you are a remnant or elect in this age and you will come to the TRUTH one way or another. You are already justified. A remnant is someone who has eyes to see and ears to hear and carries the TRUTH from one remnant to the next down to the last generation where the TRUTH will finally be absorbed by the very elect. The very elect are the same as the remnant except they have the purpose of standing against satan in the last days. Their purpose is to be delivered up for a testimony against satan at which time THE HOLY SPIRIT will Speak through them and anyone that hears their testimony will hear it in their own language, even down to the dialect of where they were born. This is demonstrated in Acts chapter two. If you have eyes to see and ears to hear then you know the time is almost up.
Notes:*
GOD calls HIS children stars. If you look at verse one in Psalms 147, you see that it says it is good to sing praises unto our GOD. Then in verse 4, HE says that HE calls the stars by name. In the book of Job, HE asks Job where was he when HE created the earth and the morning stars sang together, and all the sons (children) of GOD shouted for joy. Morning Star means early light, which means or signifies TRUTH. The TRUE Morning Star is JESUS. So, Psalms 147:4 says that HE knows all of us (HIS children) and calls each of us by name. That doesn’t mean that HE couldn’t name every fiery ball of the heavens. HE is GOD!
Note that Psalms 147:1 and Psalms 147:4 are in context with each other and correlates to Job 38:7.
Psalms 147:1 Praise ye the LORD: for it is good to sing praises unto our God; for it is pleasant; and praise is comely.
Psalms 147:2 The LORD doth build up Jerusalem: he gathereth together the outcasts of Israel.
Psalms 147:3 He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.
Psalms 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.
Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Note that satan claims and wants to be the morning star, and that his name ‘lucifer’ means the morning star. But satan is a liar. There is no truth in him. That old serpent, the devil will be turned to ashes from the inside out in the presence of all who behold him.
Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
